Clove oil

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  • Clove oil

    Posted by Michael on November 24, 2021 at 8:39 pm

    I like the Geneva brand paint that Mark Carder manufactures because it flows on smoothly and dries slowly which I find very helpful when painting portraits. He adds a small amount of clove oil to the paint to slow the drying further.

    What is your opinion of the Geneva paint and it’s use of clove oil?

    George O'Hanlon replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • George O'Hanlon

    Organizer
    November 25, 2021 at 10:26 pm

    The main oil constituents of clove oil are eugenol (70–95 %), eugenol acetate (up to 20 %), and β-caryophyllene (12–17 %). Eugenol is an anti-oxidant that interferes with the drying process of vegetable drying oils. This may have long-term consequences for the oxidative polymerization of oil paint, causing it to form weak paint films that are susceptible to moisture and solvents.

    • Alexandro

      Member
      February 27, 2023 at 4:45 pm

      Would varnishing prevent this to happen?

  • George O'Hanlon

    Organizer
    February 27, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    Geneva Paint contains clove oil which we know interferes with the natural oxidative process of oil paint.

    • Alexandro

      Member
      February 27, 2023 at 5:21 pm

      Hi George! Which as you mentioned may have long-term consequences for the oxidative polymerization of oil paint, causing it to form weak paint films that are susceptible to moisture and solvents. But wouldn’t the varnish protect the weak paint film from moisture and solvents? And other environmental issues

  • George O'Hanlon

    Organizer
    February 27, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    Varnishes provide limited protection from the environment, but the problem, in the case of clove oil in the paint, is not the environment but rather the potential defects in the paint film due to an oxidative process that is impaired by the anti-oxidant (eugenol) in clove oil.

    • Alexandro

      Member
      February 27, 2023 at 5:31 pm

      So bringing back the mason mortar and brick example in the fat over lean articles, it would be like weakening the whole composition of the wall, right? Painting the wall (such as varnishing the painting) wouldn’t make it stronger

      • George O'Hanlon

        Organizer
        February 27, 2023 at 5:45 pm

        Weakening the binding agent in the paint—the glue that holds the pigment together and to the substrate.

  • George O'Hanlon

    Organizer
    February 27, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    Varnish cannot protect the underlying paint film from solvents used to remove varnish or to clean the painting. Varnish coatings are not impermeable membranes. Humidity and moisture have no trouble passing through them.

  • Anna Brait

    Member
    March 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    Alas, I have a set of Geneva paints that I don’t use anymore. Instead, I put clove oil on a cotton ball and leave that in my pochade box to prevent paint on the palette from drying out. I store the pochade in a plastic bag. Do you foresee any problems?

  • Anna Brait

    Member
    March 21, 2023 at 9:53 am

    Thank you, George. I appreciate your reassuring response!

  • abdul

    Member
    October 26, 2023 at 11:20 am

    Thanks guys for sharing much of information for oil paint

  • abdul

    Member
    October 26, 2023 at 11:22 am

    Can you guys tell me which is the best oil paint for painting actually i have to make paintings and sell it on facebook. so need the best ones. https://paintingservice.ae/painters-services/flat-painting-services-in-dubai/

    • George O'Hanlon

      Organizer
      October 26, 2023 at 1:36 pm

      That depends on many factors. ou must try a few from each brand that is available to you to determine what suits your needs.

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